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This is how the Boeing 797 will look like

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Seattle - More information is now available about the Boeing's NMA, New Mid-market Airplane. Journalist Jon Ostrower reports the planning around the aircraft and holds an image giving some idea how the future device will look like. (jonostrower.com) 기타...

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EB333
This is how the Boeing 797 will look like
Great Grammar!
Pretty sure 'what' would have been a better choice, or lose the word 'like'
thenotoriousrob
Came to the comments for this.... x1000.
babyracer
Same here.

jasonforpres
I cringe too. Common mistake I hear a lot in Europe.
Cansojr
Cansojr -1
Huh...cringe some more you twinkie!
habachi
habachi 3
Came here to comment on the grammar.

Quality contribution, though.
Cansojr
Cansojr 1
Who says so eh?
av8rdav
av8rdav 0
I came to read the article, but you can't argue the grammar is awful.
garritt
garritt 0
who really cares.......unless their life will be changed because of it
Bobqat
I care. There is a marked decline in the quality of journalism, and written discussion in general of late. May not kill me, but it bugs me...
av8rdav
av8rdav 1
That's the first thing I thought.
Cansojr
Cansojr 1
Thank you kind sir, for indeed you are a literate gentleman unlike some of the other buffoons of illiterate gibberirish.
TorstenHoff
Let's not overlook that this is one person's guess of what the 797 *may* look like. Nothing official.
ColinPierce
It says in the article that it's an official design, though.
tyketto
Is it me, or does this look like what a smaller version of the 787-3 would have been?
btweston
btweston 1
I think he overlooked that.
Bobqat
It also says "Highly unlikely to be the final form of the eventual 797"
picturetaker
Looks like the Dreamliner. I wonder if the doors will open like they do on the 767.
aldreizanette
It looks very nice.

Way to go to the folks at Boeing.

In my opinion it resembles the good old 757, anyone else agrees with me ?
matsharris
Agreed, or a hybrid between the 757 and a 767. Nice looking plane.
jbqwik
jbqwik 1
yep, agree. nice looking a/c
tranderson2
WOW! I have never seen a passenger jet that looked like this! Big wings on BOTH sides of a long, flattened cigar tube with a pointy front. And what do they call that big thing at the tail-end that sticks way up? What a radical departure from what one would commonly see at ANY airport.

It remains to be seen, however, if they can get the windows to actually line up with the seats.
erisajd
erisajd 2
EVERY single airliner of the future will be two motor, ETOPS capable with a range anywhere from 2000-7000nm. And I'll be right.
rsantiago1221
They need to make a new edition of the 757 bring that back!!! just like airbus is redoing there a330 bring back the 757'Max
electronpusher9
I was hoping for something like a rocket ship but no, still looks like an airplane. Wings, engines,vertical and horizontal stabilizers. Bummer.
northcut
Yes, lose the word "like" on the end -- that should fix the problem. Is the author of the headline listening?
canuck44
canuck44 1
By Boeing's best estimates these aircraft will not be into production for 8-10 years, but at the same time they are projecting the use of existing and proven technology. This is like the ultimate hybrid. The bugs on using composites have been worked out, the wing design looks like it only needs to be resized and even the windshields are to be borrowed designs.
I suspect Boeing will have to put on a major push to get this aircraft put together if they are to stay in the 757 replacement market. As the costs of keeping the existing 757's in the air, replacement will look every more appealing and the only player for 10 years will be the A-321LR. If airlines buy them, they will expect 20 years out of their purchases which will leave the 797 out of the market for up to 20 years. As Boeing does not appear to be reinventing the wheel, they should be able to shorten the lead time by a couple of years.
northcut
Really: "how" and not "what"? Back to grammar school for someone, methinks.
victorbravo77
Successfully using off the shelf parts in new niches/designs can be a market changer.
mpmt06
No one else think that rendering looks like an A321, minus the boomerang winglets etc?? I've often wondered if there is a 'perfect' aerodynamic shape and it seems that as they get closer to achieving it, the aircraft begin to look more and more similar? Don't bash me in the comments, I'm an avid planespotter, I know the difference between an Airbus and a Boeing! Just saying'!
Bobqat
Quite reasonable. Sometimes technical requirements do result in similar designs. Shuttle/Buran, Concorde/Tu-144, etc. I used to be able to identify airliners quite easily; these days, all the regional jets and more manufacturers building twin engine birds, it can be challenging - especially if one is working with only a silhouette or less than optimal photograph.
shrudini
shrudini 1
Looks nice.
DalekCaan
Can’t wait
csteinbrecher
Awesome... Yes, "This is how the Boeing 797 will look."
s2v8377
s2v8377 0
Boeing would have been better off updating the 767/757s with new wings, avionics, and engines and calling it a day. Cheaper and they'd probably already have them on the market. Great going wasting your time Boeing developing the 747-8, 737 MAX 9, and 737 MAX 10.
pbissonnette
its not quite that simple. they are too old, systems need redesign, needs new lighter materials which require new engineering. Add up all this and you have to build new to achieve the opex savings which are expected.
s2v8377
s2v8377 1
Yeah, it is that simple. If it wasn't we wouldn't have the 737NG and 737MAX programs, or the 747-400 and 747-8.
FedExCargoPilot
s2v8377 I totally agree.
FedExCargoPilot
Airbus won
E1craZ4life
Lufthansa is looking for a plane that can fly further than the A321LR, which they expect the 797 to fulfill.
FedExCargoPilot
Isn't that what the A330 NEO is supposed to do? What Airbus doesn't have is a long range narrowbody that can do the job. 757 reborn? Very surprised that a widebody was chosen, but maybe the image is deceiving. It looks like the 787-3 that nobody wanted to buy earlier...
FedExCargoPilot
Looking at it again, it actually does not look too bad...not like a 787-3
Cansojr
Cansojr 1
I have seen this before...Hmmm,I wonder?
leonkay
Leon Kay 0
It appears that two engine passenger aircraft is the way to go, especially after the success of the Airbus A350.
Archangel
What the hell are you babbling about? The current A350 is a “ME TOO” clone of the 787. The original A350 was a failure. Airbus never does anything first, they alway wait and copy Boeing.
mattwestuk
Airbus was the first company to utilize Fly-By-Wire in commercial aircraft.

https://www.flyingmag.com/aircraft/jets/fly-by-wire-fact-versus-science-fiction.


They were also the first to develop the twin-engine wide-bodied aircraft, the A300, which "holds the distinction of being the world's first twin-engined widebody airliner"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airbus_A300

So, your statement that all they do is copy is completely incorrect.
Archangel
Not talking about fly by wire dipshit. I’m talking about the style and form. Name one aircraft airbus has done recently that wasn’t me too clone of something Boeing has done.

A330 was a 767 me too
A320 was a 737 me too
A380 was a me too pissing contest failure at replacing the 747
Original A350 was a half assed me too attempt at trying to kill off the 787
A350XWB was a blatant me too clone of the 787

So again Boeing leads, Airbus follows, they never go out on a limb first they just wait for Boeing to come out with something, watch to see the issues they run into and then just copy all of the positives. They are a less sleazy version of China, but they copy just as much.
honzanl
honza nl 2
767 was a A300 me too
727 was a DH121 me too
737 Max 8 was a A320Neo me too
737 Max 10 was a A321Neo me too
KC-46 was a A330MRTT me too
797 is a A321LR me too
E1craZ4life
I tend to get a "snobs versus slobs" vibe from the rivalry between Airbus and Boeing.
bobbywi
Ditto on that Erik. Somebody needs a refresher course in basic English.
garritt
garritt 1
who cares bobby
Moviela
It's a different day. The aluminium skinned heavy planes of the last century are no longer desired b
y the operators and passengers of today. New planes need to be lighter, fly higher, go faster, and use less fuel. The need and desire for air transportation in Asia is exploding and their needs are for a mid-market aircraft that can operate in the space between the 73's and the heavies. More and more people are ignoring the hub and spoke system in favor of a point to point route map.
paulgilpin1953
this only confirms boring's purchase of aurora was to suppress the technology and not to employ it.
ColinSeftel
I don't see how this wide-body twin aisle aircraft (797) will be able to compete with the much lower fuel costs of a narrow-body single aisle plane (A321). Can anyone explain?
AlanBDahl
One wood assume that the ovoid fuselage shape should mostly negate the extra fuel burn of the wider cabin or they would not have gone with a twin-asile design.

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