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After two weeks, the first female USAF F-16 demo pilot is relieved of command

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Capt. Zoe Kotnik, the first female pilot to head the F-16 Viper demonstration team, was relieved of command. “Col. Derek O’Malley, 20th Fighter Wing commander, relieved Capt. Zoe Kotnik from command Feb. 11 due to a loss of confidence in her ability to lead and command the Air Combat Command F-16 Viper demonstration team,” said Col. Allen Herritage, director of public affairs in a statement The 20th, which is located at Shaw Air Force Base in South Carolina, said in an email to Air Force Times… (www.airlive.net) 기타...

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richardorgill
As a Marine Fighter pilot (now retired) I failed to read anywhere why she was relieved of command due to her flying ability.

I have seen many a gent at the club blow a career over booze, over comments about the Command so-on-so-forth even had a buddy relieved of command over a joke about Clinton just after he was elected as POTUS. The sad part is Skip was right Clinton did end up screwing females in the Oval Office so the joke was spot on you just can't say that about the new C in C.

A relief is a kiss of death for the career so now she will quietly resign her commission and end up flying for an Airlines.

And to the jerk who said this is waste of Tax Dollars you are far from wrong. It has been proven time and time again this and other recruiting tools, as well as PR, is well worth the investment the Military puts in with your tax dollars (BTW that is several GAO reports not my remarks on the tax dollars spent on these shows.)
djames225
Hats off sir, and a huge thank you for your service.
KobeHunte
roger that! thank you!
Cansojr
Cansojr 2
Roger copy that. Thank you both for your service.

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JMARTINSON
You should worry less about her ovaries and more about why you're so desperate for attention.
RECOR10
RECOR10 -7
I love the down votes. The reality is, a MAN not keeping a position is not news. The fact is that only ovaries set this person aside. Best I can tell, if it was a trans-genter' it would not be allwoed to be news.

Then again, ia am ALL FOR women NOT serving in the front lines of any conflict. Simply, the reality is they are not as strong as men - period. Or, when exactly will it be some woman is going to tighten her tampon and compete against the men in Football/Baseball/Hockey/Cycling/Track and Field/Marathon....

Then, we get last years 'female' champion track cyclist (in full possession of a penis all -her- life).

Now, off to make sure that for Valentines day my other half is scrubbing the floors and washing dishes so she can cook diner.........
KobeHunte
guess what.. you are going to love down votes even more with that comment..
RECOR10
RECOR10 -5
That is fine, I am well aware that realities of humanity has no function in the illogical thoughts of the moronic left :-)
djames225
At least the left have thoughts, illogical or not!!. And again, this is an aviation forum, not a chest thumping political forum!!
KobeHunte
exactly!
RECOR10
RECOR10 -4
Yeah yeah....the way this story is in the media...I guess POTUS was key in her getting dropped >eye roll<....sorry.
djames225
WOW...YOU CANNOT TAKE A HINT, CAN YOU...ENOUGH OF YOUR POLITICAL CRAP!!
BTW...It's F14 PILOT not DRIVER!!!!!
RECOR10
RECOR10 -3
Oddly, a surgeon who I work with refers to himself CLEARLY as an F14 "Driver", another who flew C130's" "Driver", My brother who flies CH46's assisting in killing rag heads in Trashcanistan to this day? "Driver"...even the guy who flies my families Citation will call himself a "Driver".

Now, if we could only get the might of the United States Military to take out most of Southern Californa's elected officials. I can assure you, they would like to.
RECOR10
RECOR10 -2
Quick note: the only person I know who demands to be called "pilot" is the guy who brings our boat from the harbor to the seaway.
KobeHunte
quick question.. are you looking in the mirror at the moment???
KobeHunte
the only illogical thoughts of the moronic come from you.. please delete your account
DAL498
DAL498 2
The 1950s called and they want their tiny dick back
RECOR10
RECOR10 -4
Not even in the '50's was a woman able to play defense in football or pitcher (or any other position) in baseball...darn reality! darn it all to heck! (note: they still cant)
djames225
So they gave her 2 weeks and pulled the plug...yet I've seen some doorbell guys leading a squad, who should be behind a desk, still leading after 2 mths...smh.
DAL498
DAL498 1
it probably wasn't because she was a woman...but if it was shame on them

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djames225
WOW...you really are a dick!! Because it isn't a guy in this article, you had to come up with that???

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jzeke2
If you went and saw one of the demonstrations you might change your mind. They are going to spend the money either way so we might as well get something out of it.

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KobeHunte
so what else are they going to do with it?? Airshows are very interesting and fun to watch so but yourself back to bed.
djames225
I think "but" was more appropriate..
KobeHunte
lol..

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djames225
Doing an airshow could be construed as training...whether they do it in front of people makes no difference, except the people get to see some admirable flying!
It's also called Military/Air Force PR...makes Joe public understand their roles better, and give Joe public opportunity to ask questions.
RECOR10
RECOR10 2
A man I work with who happened to be an F14 driver had the prospective that it was good recruitment tools for fliers...he would always preface that with "Almost as good as the movie Top Gun" (a movie his ride was in a time or two, with him at the helm).
speedbird347
How did you get here?
Atatakai
Taylor - ALL of the military is "on the tax payer's dime". It is the biggest Socialist program in the US. The budget for the military is bigger than the top 20 other developed countries spend combined. The Blue Angels and the Thunderbirds are but a drop in the bucket.
KobeHunte
i honestly think you should have other occupations...
RECOR10
RECOR10 1
Wow....that guy is beyond a freaking idiot
Cansojr
Cansojr 8
Agreed! Airshows happen during long weekends sporting events and holidays to demonstrate the equipment and skills a professional military requires on a full time basis. You don't see jets blasting through public airspace for the heck of it and have jolly goog time with it. There is nothing better than going to an airshow to watch the pros on a summer day.

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TexasKid747
As as side note to your complaint, the amount spent on demonstration teams, whatever that amount is, is a so tiny compared to the national debt that the target of your complaint needs to be reassessed. Looks towards all the "unfunded liabilities" on usdebtclock dot gov.

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TexasKid747
I understand, it appears that you want no money spent on anything military. Your issue is not with the money, it leans toward the military. We have bigger problems.
Atatakai
Taylor - Oh, so because they do nothing for you, you believe they do nothing for anyone? Do you believe that for your particular religion, too? You are not part of an egocentric universe. You are but one small grain of sand.

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djames225
Then why don't we plant you butt at the front lines somewhere, that way you can watch them and not have to pay for it..well monetarily anyhow!
Cansojr
Cansojr 0
More like a subatomic particle like a neutrino.
Atatakai
Taylor - Out of curiosity, oh, wise one, how MUCH money does it cost the government?

FYI, long-term, groups like The Thunderbirds actually save the government quite a pile of money as recruiting young people into the military spikes whenever these groups appear at air shows and other events.

It might help if you learn before you make blind assumptions.
Cansojr
Cansojr 1
Thank you for that Dan!
Cansojr
Cansojr 1
In CANADA the RCAF AERIAL DEMONSTRATION TEAM FLIES THE CIRCUIT WITH OTHER HIGHLY ESTEEMED TEAMS LIKE THE THUNDERBIRDS, BLUEAGELS AN A-10 GATLING GUN ON THE A-10. OUR SNOW BIRDS FLY THE SAME SHOWS AS THE OTHERS MENTIONED. ONE NOTE:ONE RESPONDER SAID ITS A GREAT TOOL FOR RECRUITING. ALL DISPLAYS HAVE A HAPPY RECRUITER STANDING BY AND THEY ARE THE BUSIEST PEOPLE AT THE SHOW.

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Cansojr
Cansojr 1
Have you ever considered that this "machine" does a lot more than fight wars. Do you realize the only way to suffering help civilians in
in disaster zones where the military fly, sets up hospitals, train the local residents about sanitation. It's not all guns bombs and bullets
We also train locals in sanitation, water purifiers, and full operating rooms not forgetting the thousands of people the military trains basic medical procedures.

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