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Delta To Retire All Its Boeing 717s And 767-300ERs

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Delta Air Lines has set out plans to retire all of its Boeing 717s and 767-300ERs. The two types will exit the airlines’ fleet by December 2025. Alongside these aircraft, from its regional brand, Delta will be retiring all of its 50-seater Bombardier CRJ200s. Retiring the aircraft Delta Air Lines announced on September 25th that it would retire all Boeing 717-200s and all 767-300ERs by December 2025. Meanwhile, the CRJ200s will be retired by December 2023. Delta stated in an investor update that… (simpleflying.com) 기타...

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ffrcobra1
ffrcobra1 19
Bummer. I found the 717 to be a comfortable, quiet ride. Not adjectives I would use in a sentence describing a 737 trip.
bartmiller
DC-9 —> MD80 —> MD90 —> MD95 —> (rebranded) B-717. Plus a bunch of intermediate models.

Solid and reliable with a long history. Very few big changes in this development path.
RetiredCaptain
"Solid and reliable with a long history"

I agree. And fun to fly. My first "big airplane" type rating. According to the FAA's Type Certificate Data Sheet (TCDS) A6WE Rev. 30 all the DC-9 models include the:

DC-9-11, DC-9-12, DC-9-13, DC-9-14, DC-9-15, DC-9-15F, DC-9-21, DC-9-31, DC-9-32, DC-9-32 (VC-9C), DC-9-32F, DC-9-32F (C-9A, C-9B), DC-9-33F, DC-9-34, DC-9-34F, DC-9-41, DC-9-51, DC-9-81 (MD-81), DC-9-82 (MD-82), DC-9-83 (MD-83), DC-9-87 (MD-87), MD-88, MD-90-30, 717-200.

None are "intermediate." Each a distinct and different model. But close enough in performance and operating characteristics that the type rating is the same. Ditto the 757 767.

If you took a type rating ride in the airplane today your airman certificate would read "DC-9" as it would have in 1965 when it first flew. A DC-9 is a DC-9.

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Capt J Buck

ATP DC-9 B757 B767
Flight Instructor
Ground Instructor
Aircraft Dispatcher
A&P Mechanic
Air Traffic Controller
FAA Aviation Safety Inspector (Ret.)
FAA certified accident investigator (Ret.)
ICAO Panel Member
tnbriggs
Great to see the full list. Thanks for the info. Always had good rides in the MadDogs.
igotthejet
Thanks for providing us with your credentials.
yr2012
Still a McDonnell, not a Boeing
jptq63
jptq63 8
Wonder if some of those 767-300s will be converted to freighters, as per article, Delta owns them. Thinking some big on-line retailer would be interested picking them up on the cheap....
DSHartje
Keep in mind these retirements are still a few years out so we have time to book our flights on these aircraft.
ArthurNetteler
I flew the Fantastic DC-93 for Ozark in the Mid Late 1980's.. If the 717 was anything like the DC-93, I would have loved that aircraft as well!. The VERY LOW Cockpit noise from the DC-93 made the Flight Deck actually BETTER than most other types of Aircraft. Actually could talk to each other up there.
11Mooneymite
The 717's can move back to the other side of Atlanta's C concourse as Southwest realizes it can't just depend on 737's. I understand SWA has quite a few pilots who know the 717. :-))
louisjames
lou nagy 2
***If you remember, THEE ORIGINAL 717's were from the ORIGINAL TWA way back in mid 90's. TWA purchased them brand new when back in the mid 80's Carl Ichan bought the old OZARK that merged into TWA and had their (OZ) old DC9's as a replacement for the DC9's; back in Ichan's owner of TWA, I beleive.****
RetiredCaptain
I believe that TWA had 50 B-717s on order but never took delivery of them because of their bankruptcy. American got the order as a part of the its purchase of TWA, took delivery of 30 of the 50 -717s and then promptly sold them to AirTran. When Southwest bought AirTran they leased the aircraft to Delta. Of the 91 B-717s Delta operates 88 are on lease from Southwest. When TWA and Ozark merged in the mid-1980s (1986 I believe) it had DC-9 -10 -32 -40 and -82 models. TWA promptly got rid of the -10s but used the -32s an -82 until it went bankrupt in 2001. American kept the -8s but got rid of the older models. At least that's how I remember it.

Capt J Buck

ATP DC-9 B757 B767
Flight Instructor
Ground Instructor
Aircraft Dispatcher
A&P Mechanic
Air Traffic Controller
FAA Aviation Safety Inspector (Ret.)
FAA certified accident investigator (Ret.)
ICAO Panel Member
williambaker08
Hasnt Delta been going around the world looking for 717’s?? Or was that the 727. Someone correct me here.
bentwing60
It was the 717 wb. Delta owns, or leases 91 of only 156 to ever enter service.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_717
FloridaFan34
88 of the DL 717s belong to Southwest, who inherited the 717s in the Air Tran merger.
I feel fortunate enough to have been on 8 Air Tran 717s (FLL-ATL-MKE-ATL-FLL and FLL-GPT-FLL 2 times), and 1 on on Delta (Ex- Air Tran bird on the ATL-MSY run and the MIA-ATL, and MSY-ATL were on the now retired MD 88, and ATL-FLL on a 757)
jbikales
I'm curious what this means for long/skinny routes like PDX-AMS that typically use the 767-300ER. I think they aren't busy enough year-round for A330 or A350. Will they be cut or is there another option in the fleet?
canuck44
canuck44 1
Sorry to see the 76's go as they are easily the most comfortable trans-Atlantic aircraft. I would deliberately choose them over some other offerings.My mate being only five foot the two side seats were like our own compartment at half the price.
sho69607
How old are their 767's? They haven't been out of production for that long.
boughbw
Brian Bough 7
Their 767-300s are older. I believe the 767-400s will remain in-service. However, it is worth nothing that in Delta's fleet the 717 is being replaced by the A220, the 767 by the A330, and the 777 by the A350. If Boeing can't deliver on a 757 replacement, I can see Delta going all-Airbus in the next 10 years.
johdgui
No! The 717 was one of the most iconic plane that flew to my home airport. It was a fun plane to watch come in. But, it's an old airplane and it had a good lifespan.
patpylot
delta is cleaning house of its american-made airliners, even if we ,the passengers have a soft spot in our hearts for them: 717, 767-300ers, 777- 757, oldie-goldies every one of them. Delta sure can carry a grudge for years about boeing.The737-900s will stay awhile.....
tnbriggs
And ironic when you consider that before the NWA merger they had few, (if any??), Airbus.
boughbw
Brian Bough 1
Of course -- that 737-900ER is a sardine can and easily my least favorite plane of the bunch. I mentioned above that if Boeing doesn't come up with a 757 replacement, Airbus may replace Boeing entirely at Delta. I could easily see those 737s gaining new life at Southwest, should Delta decide to get out of the Boeing fleet altogether.
ssobol
How is something that is going to happen 5 years from now "news"?

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