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Cargo plane breaks loose at Anchorage airport

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A Korean Air cargo plane became unsecured and rolled unguided down a Ted Stevens Anchorage International Airport lot Monday morning, impacting and damaging a parked truck and fence, according to officials. (www.alaskasnewssource.com) 기타...

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djames225
djames225 15
Maybe a good thing that truck was there as it looks to be the "stopper" Otherwise could have been a whole lot worse damage wise.
sparkie624
Most certainly... I think a better word that "could" would be "Would"
djames225
I Was trying to be a bit optimistic for Korean Air's sake..lol. Perhaps even better than "could" or "would" would be "definitely".
A6SEA
Or, innovative chock...
chugheset
When I was a ramp rat many moons ago I loved riding the brakes during ground movements. I would fantasize that I was flying off to exotic locations. Also, it sure beat wing-walking in the rain!
fireftr
Got that right! Worst thing on the ramp is waiting in a blizzard or driving rain to marshall off a plane after disconnecting the tow bar, and the Captain is taking forever! You get the feeling like they forgot you’re standing there waiting for the all -clear headlight flash!
sparkie624
You just reminded me of another one many moons ago... During the winter it was the responsibility in the station to keep the plane warm and have it ready for the crew... It was about 5 below zero that night and snowing... over 3 hours, 6 inches of snow accumulated on the wings and tail. Keep in mind I am cold natured and I ran the pack pretty good all night long, and had a GREAT snooze... When the captain came on board, I told him I had it all warmed up for him... He said: "I can TELL!" as he flipped the packs off and opened the cockpit window... As I left the plane noticing the wings with 6+ inches of rain, there was nothing but water running off the fuselage... Like I said... I had it warmed up for him... Maybe more than his liking, but the Flight Attendants weren't complaining! LOL.
fireftr
First, I love the caption under the picture where they call it a Korean Air “flight”! Then, there was no brake rider in the cockpit? They didn’t set wheel chocks ? Very poor ground movement procedures!
musocat
Runaway Plane!

Actually, a freakin' 747 rolling along on its own is pretty scary.
jbermo
jbermo 7
Had something similar happen to me a long time ago on a B-727 charter. The ground handler forgot to chock the airplane and I forgot to check. Returned two hours later to find that the undamaged airplane had rolled into a nearby empty parking lot. My heart was in my throat!
sparkie624
Reminds me of a long time ago in a Fokker F-28... Was to taxi from the hangar to the gate! Lead was in a real hurry and told us to get in and he would push us back. The Ramp has a 9 to 10 degree slope and the lead was in such a hurry, he forgot to insert the toe pin, so we started gaining distance on him.. No APU, No Hydraulics on.. Got the APU On, smacked on the Hydraulics and got the plane stopped right on the edge of a 10' drop off! It was a quite an interesting ride, not seeing where you are going and no brakes!
johntaylor571
“An aircraft rolling away is not common,” he said. “There’s a variety of things that people do to secure those aircraft, a few different mechanisms and layers of protection there.”

Yeah, apparently not in this case. Somebody's screwed.
mutrock
The cargo operation at Ted Stevens is impressive. When I am in Anchorage I love to park along Poing Woronzof Rc. and watch.
d0ugparker
"Poing Woronzof Rc." Typo?
silcalifano
I have never worked around any airplane, especially large aircraft without ground staff coming in with chocks for the main tires. How does anyone explain this to management, much less the insurance company?
dee9bee
dee9bee 4
Not a good week for Rampers. I believe this happened on 8/2 at LGA...

https://www.airliners.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1475419&sid=25ce9397362decc3c4288aacaf4d4af2
jimjallen
Lot of questions here.., like did they unhook it from the tug and it rolled on it’s own while they watched it? Did they go inside for a coffee/smoke break after they unhooked it??
sparkie624
Hmm... Guess someone forgot the Chocks!
lynx318
lynx318 0
Was thinking the handbrake...
sparkie624
Problem with the Hand Brake it drives a Hydraulic Accumulator that is only good for about 30 minutes as the pressure bleeds off... The Parking brake will only hold 30 minutes longer than the Hydraulics (Electric or Engine Driven) are on.
lynx318
lynx318 0
Yes I know they don't have one as such.
sparkie624
They do, but it bleeds off in about 30 minutes.
sgbelverta
A little Bondo and a buff and she'll be as good as new.
avionik99
Idiot ground handlers. Broke numerous rules and guidelines in order for this to happen. No chocks when disconnecting from tug? No brake riders? There better be a few extra people in that unemployment line tomorrow morning!
sconklan
sconklan 8
Not sure why you got downvotes for your comment. That's millions of dollars worth of plane and thousands of dollars worth of trucks, and it could have been even worse. People who don't do their jobs right should lose them, especially when doing it wrong (or not doing it) can have disastrous consequences.
southgeek
Anchorage. They were in Anchorage, but obviously the plane was not anchored in place.
flybd5juan
what? has riding brakes gone out of fashion? what a stupid accident!
LeanderWilliams
Any ground handlers here? Question? When a plane is moved by tug from one location to another, does a member of the flight crew i.e crew chief or loadmaster, accompany the tug and makes sure that the wheels are chocked, and the parking brakes are set before leaving the aircraft unattended? I've been on hills so steep I have chocked the wheels on my vehicle even AFTER turning the wheels.
sparkie624
Not a Ground Handler, but lots of experience at moving Heavy A/C... It all comes down to Company Policy. I do not know American's Policy on moving A/C on the ground as I have never worked for them. I have worked for Piedmont Mainline, USAir Mainline, Piedmont Regional, South West Airlines, Pinnacle /Endeavor Airlines, and GoJet Airlines... Every one of them requires a Break Rider that has been trained and certified to ride the brakes. That do or do not have a policy for training and or Brake Riders, but I would be surprised if they don't!
LeanderWilliams
This was a Korean Air Cargo 747-8, so I would imagine that it comes down to whether they have their own cargo facility there, or if they contract with a ground service company.
djames225
ANC uses Pegasus and Swissport as the majority ground handlers. F&E also do some handling.
It is up to the airline who they contact to handle their ground operations.
alexa320
And then it's up to the contractor to know the operation, safety rules and comply with said contract. Otherwise, it's a free-for-all with no accountability!
In addition, all airport authorities have an onsite business office that draws up contracts for any and all tenants on operating directives. They sign on that they fully understand and will comply. That's the usual way that it is done, especially at large, Part 139 certificated international airports. Same as for LAX, SFO, LAS, SEA etc.....
alexa320
Article mentions Pegasus which sounds like a contract ground handler. Not all airlines have their own people. Many (50% plus) have contract handlers. At LAS, KAL is handled by Swissport USA.
LeanderWilliams
You are correct, especially when it comes to international carriers. I wonder how some of these ground handling companies are vetted.
sparkie624
Even at that, it sill comes down to company policy.

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