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Southwest Flight Takes Off with Door Wide Open
"On your next flight, should you look out the window and make sure your plane's door is closed before the flight leaves? ABC News reports that a Southwest flight from Houston to Dallas took off with a cargo door open." (www.smartertravel.com) 기타...Sort type: [Top] [Newest]
Well, there are 139 comments here and this makes 140 but there seems to be a common thread:
A 737 door is a plug type door and will not open if properly locked
Some feel that the crew got in a hurry and disregarded the warning lite or thought it
was INOP.
At any rate, the story said the light came on AFTER takeoff and they had to come back in.
Now,There was nothing in the story that says whether the door was actually open or not, just that they came back in to have it checked. I do not care much for no aviation eyewitness reports and consequently cannot really see where all this speculation is coming from.
A 737 door is a plug type door and will not open if properly locked
Some feel that the crew got in a hurry and disregarded the warning lite or thought it
was INOP.
At any rate, the story said the light came on AFTER takeoff and they had to come back in.
Now,There was nothing in the story that says whether the door was actually open or not, just that they came back in to have it checked. I do not care much for no aviation eyewitness reports and consequently cannot really see where all this speculation is coming from.
Agree 100% :)
There is no way that a flight crew took off with a master warning (RED) - with warning flashers - and EFIS displaying the warning in red, and the door page (which is checked prior to push) must have shown that the doors were closed.
Also, I flew a plane recently, the Piaggio P180, and it was a POS - it constantly had door issues. The seals would leak constantly, the door was designed by a drunk idiot... or at least I imagine he must have been because it was one of the worst designed parts of a plane with plenty of bad design issues.
anyway- we would take off with the door indicating closed ALL THE TIME - and on climb out as the Delta P would increase, the door would shift slightly, or the seals would, and the pin in the door would move ever so slightly and would indicate an issue.
There are amber and red alerts - both have flashers - one would indicate a single door pin, the other would indicate if there was a bigger problem.
I am sure preacher1 knows all about those damn doors too ;)
There is no way that a flight crew took off with a master warning (RED) - with warning flashers - and EFIS displaying the warning in red, and the door page (which is checked prior to push) must have shown that the doors were closed.
Also, I flew a plane recently, the Piaggio P180, and it was a POS - it constantly had door issues. The seals would leak constantly, the door was designed by a drunk idiot... or at least I imagine he must have been because it was one of the worst designed parts of a plane with plenty of bad design issues.
anyway- we would take off with the door indicating closed ALL THE TIME - and on climb out as the Delta P would increase, the door would shift slightly, or the seals would, and the pin in the door would move ever so slightly and would indicate an issue.
There are amber and red alerts - both have flashers - one would indicate a single door pin, the other would indicate if there was a bigger problem.
I am sure preacher1 knows all about those damn doors too ;)
For one thing, it was not read as it would have been a caution... They would have reset the cautions on the ground... Unless they recalled them they would not have been shown.
You are correct on the Delta P, but in this case it is a plug door, it would have only gotten tighter, impossible for that door to come open in flight.
I hate to disagree with you, but since they did not do a recall of the Master Caution and Warnings they had no indications in front of them. On the 737 it is not displayed on the EFIS, but rather what we term as 6 packs, and they overlooked the overhead door indication light on the over head panel... Yes, they took off with the door open....
Please note: http://www.b737.org.uk/warningsystems.htm as this will show how it is displayed on ALL 737's, old and new a like. I have YEARS of experience working these a/c. A Piaggio P180 has NOTHING in common with a 737, and other than the fact that these 2 airplanes are pressurized they have NOTHING in common and thus your issues to the doors are unfounded.
You are correct on the Delta P, but in this case it is a plug door, it would have only gotten tighter, impossible for that door to come open in flight.
I hate to disagree with you, but since they did not do a recall of the Master Caution and Warnings they had no indications in front of them. On the 737 it is not displayed on the EFIS, but rather what we term as 6 packs, and they overlooked the overhead door indication light on the over head panel... Yes, they took off with the door open....
Please note: http://www.b737.org.uk/warningsystems.htm as this will show how it is displayed on ALL 737's, old and new a like. I have YEARS of experience working these a/c. A Piaggio P180 has NOTHING in common with a 737, and other than the fact that these 2 airplanes are pressurized they have NOTHING in common and thus your issues to the doors are unfounded.
This happening is a trip and as I already said here, it is a strange happening.
On the other subject, the P180, at least after a period of time, turns into a POS, not just the door. It is something that makes nice eye candy off a dealer's ramp and a wonderful test flight when new. Like a lot of other cheaply constructed things, it starts falling apart after a while.
BTW, how you a doing anyway? I have been so sick with the creeping crud this past week, I marked plumb off the board until about mid week
On the other subject, the P180, at least after a period of time, turns into a POS, not just the door. It is something that makes nice eye candy off a dealer's ramp and a wonderful test flight when new. Like a lot of other cheaply constructed things, it starts falling apart after a while.
BTW, how you a doing anyway? I have been so sick with the creeping crud this past week, I marked plumb off the board until about mid week
Well looks like they'll be replacing a few suitcases. :P
So, what about aircraft in similar situations(flying) ?