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CYXUrwy33
Target too slow - suggest we get out and walk.
skuttlerats
lol....no doubt. Be like watching the Final Countdown when the F-14 Tomcats went up against the Japanese Zero's....no contest.
onceastudentpilot
The Simpsons...right?..lol....we need to bring back a few p-51s for this kind of thing...cheaper on fuel
onceastudentpilot
notice how they said it wasn't clear if the fighters had even intercepted it...they prolly blew past him/her by about 100 miles before they were radioed it had landed..lol
skuttlerats
Never saw the Simpsons version of the Final Countdown but your right about the P-51's! lol
onceastudentpilot
They have an episode where "sideshow bob" steals the Wright Flyer at an airshow...they scramble two jet fighters to intercept him....they end up passing and saying "target to slow-suggest we get out and walk....They chase it carrying nets and sticks.
Aaron320
haha...simpsons!
JetBlastSST
sounds like someone is dicking around with our ATC and militarys reaction time to see what FAA will do
yock
This doesn't seem like a very good use of a couple million dollars to me.

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stuartsm
stuartsm 0
The article states that radio contact was lost somewhere near Ventura which would indicate the pilot was well clear of the Los Angeles Bravo airspace. Along that route of flight are a couple of restricted areas, one adjacent to Pt. Mugu NAS (which is very close to the Ventura VOR). Further north there is restricted airspace overlying Vanderburg AFB. The last restricted airspace he could have encountered is R2513 just inland from Big Sur. If he remained clear of these restricted areas and didn't blow through any Class C or D airspace he wouldn't be required to talk to anybody until he was approaching Monterey.
stuartsm
stuartsm 0
Looking at the flight log on Flight Aware is confusing. He is flying at 6k which is well below MEA's along his route of flight. This could explain the concern if he was NORDO and too low to provide separation from aircraft arriving and departing from numerous airports along his route. If he was VFR he's not a VFR cruising altitude. Curious ..

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colinpayette
There's no reason for you to be such an asshole to everyone. We don't know what happened and neither do you, so chill out.
stuartsm
stuartsm 0
Ok I'll shut up now.
colinpayette
No, don't shut up. Peter is a self-righteous jerk who should go work for the NTSB if he's so concerned.

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stuartsm
stuartsm 0
Peter, its guys like you that take the fun out of conversing on the Internet. I understand the burden you are carrying, its a huge job to be right all of the time. I would be willing to bet that you are a pretty good guy in person and we could enjoy talking flying together. On this board, not so much. Over and out.
mooneym20d
I live on the east coast. We routinely observe f-15's circling behind one of our local CAP 172's. Happens once every six months or so. They are strictly training missions. They inform no-one prior to the training, so it leaves the local media to it's messed up suppositions. I know the CAP pilot. He is based in a hangar next to mine. This training happens on the CONUS coastlines.
homburge
homburge 0
OK, so let's look at this rationally.

First, you don't get a flight track on Flightaware unless you're IFR or on flight following, and then sometimes the track isn't complete.

Second, the track shown in the referenced link is probably an IFR flight: it's complete, and the plane was at 6000 with little deviation for the whole way.

Third, check out the filed flight plan: it's airways and direct-VORs. Looks to me like a pretty standard coastal-IFR route from LA to the SF areas. I do that route when I want to watch the scenery.

Fourth, we don't even know if this is the plane that got scrambled on. Or if this plane's radios failed.

My bet -- something else was going on.

To me, it first seemed like another waste of government money. Or not. Maybe they were scheduled to do some type of flight training that day. Ever fly VFR through an active MOA? You could become a practice target doing that. But why chase a 172 off the central CA coast (unless the plane infringed Vandenberg)?

We just don't know enough from this published story.

One day I was flying near Lemoore (Central CA Valley) on my way down to Las Vegas. The military treated me to an incredible dogfight, at one point corkscrewing from probably 20K feet down near the ground about two miles from me. The controller was nice enough to point these guys out to me and, I tell you what, it was a better show than the Blue Angels.

Were they also checking me out, or seeing how close they could come to me to do their maneuvers? Don't know. But I enjoyed it. And I asked the Joshua guys if they could match Lemoore's show!
geoflyer
What a bizarre article. Must have been a slow day to go after a 172 in the middle of the valley.
jmedina94
Lol. We'll just use some wake turbulence on it.
jmedina94
Wondering if this is it. http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N353MV/history/20120101/1730Z/KSMO/KOAK
skuttlerats
Hmmmmm...sounds like a "test" to me.
chalet
chalet 0
I agree with you otherwise the pilot of the C-172 after realizing that he lost radio contact he should have proceeded as per the prescribed procedure and fly to the hearest airport squaking 7600, entering the pattern after checking for traffic, fly down the runway at 300-500 ft rocking the wings and wait for the green light.
chalet
chalet 0
Since he was flying VFR he could have flown all the way to destination avoiding restricted/prohibited airspace with no need to communicate with anybody along the way but in these times when the Air Force is on the watch for suspicious airplanes as they consider them potential threats, it is highly advisable to land ASAP after the radio conks out, fix it and only then continue onwards.

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