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First FAA-Certified Carrier to Fly Special RNP AR Approaches!

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We’re the first Federal Aviation Administration (FAA)-certified carrier in the United States to utilize the new satellite-based Special (Non-Public) Required Navigation Performance Authorization Required (RNP AR) approaches to Runways 13L and 13R ... (blog.jetblue.com) 기타...

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sparkie624
This is actually old news that has been going on for a couple years. This is a great plan. I know the company that I work for is planning on putting this system to use in or CRJ-900's.
Yazoo
Yazoo 3
Sorry, but I don't see what's new here. There are others that have been doing RNAV RNP with RF legs to final for many years. RNAV RNP Rwy19 at KDCA is the first that comes to mind. Quito and Tegucigalpa also have very interesting RNP approaches although I believe that they both have a final segment that is straight. ATL is using RNAV visuals so that you are cleared for the charted visual directly off the arrival to allow for an idle approach to approx 1,000ft.
rovinmoses
In 1996, Alaska Airlines became the first airline in the world to utilize an RNP approach with its approach down the Gastineau Channel into Juneau, Alaska. Alaska Airlines Captain Steve Fulton and Captain Hal Anderson developed more than 30 RNP approaches for the airline's Alaska operations. In 2003 they founded Naverus which is the world leader in helping deploy RNP and other PBN systems worldwide.[3] In 2005, Alaska Airlines became the first airline to utilize RNP approaches into Reagan National Airport to avoid congestion.[4] In April 2009, Alaska Airlines became the first airline to gain approval from the FAA to validate their own RNP approaches.[4] On April 6, 2010, Southwest Airlines converted to RNP.[5] In October 2011 Boeing, Lion Air and the Indonesian Directorate General of Civil Aviation, performed validation flights to test tailor-made Required Navigation Performance Authorization Required (RNP AR) procedures at 2 terrain challenged airports, Ambon and Manado, Indonesia as pioneering the use of RNP precision navigation technology in South Asia.[6]

The above is from Wikipedia. Alaska was first to use it. And, if anyone remembers when an Alaska 727 flew into the side of a mountain during an approach into Juneau, RNP is a wonderful development.
Yazoo
Yazoo 1
Thanks for the great info Jim. I know that Alaska is the leader and sets the high standard for the RNAV RNP. When I wrote that I could not find documentation I was referring to the actual meaning of "Special (Non-Public) Required Navigation Performance Authorization Required". I wrote a poorly worded response to Thomas Skubal.
smoki
smoki 1
Please stop already with reference to "greenhouse gas" emissions. It's all nauseatingly politically correct sheeple talk and worthy of being ignored. Has anyone seen this greenhouse with its ceiling somewhere in the stratosphere holding in the emissions, or for that matter the so-called carbon footprint? No of course not because it doesn't exist except in the fertile imagination of those who have their sights set on making money off of this hoax.
pmd603
Phil Day 1
What makes you think they won't be doing these during line operations? And I don't see how it would be more work for a controller. They wouldn't need vectors to the final approach like an ILS and it looks like the approach closely follows the VOR13L/13R path. There have been RNP approaches, but I think the new thing is the constant descent turn with the DA in a turn, but I'm not sure.
tskubal
Can someone explain the Non-Public part of Special (Non-Public) Required Navigation Performance Authorization Required? Does the write mean, Non-GA?
Yazoo
Yazoo 1
I don't want to provide bad information but I believe that the approach was designed/certified by that specific carrier and is not available to the general public. I know that the carrier I work for has developed their own arrivals, departures, and approaches that may not be available to the public or to other carriers. Alaska has lead the way in the development of many RNAV/RNP flying with the many locations they fly in Alaska. I can't find an actual document that states this.
capnaux
Agree with Yazoo; and sparkie624 you must be right--old news!

I've physically flown the RNP into JFK 13L with my carrier. Not sure why their tooting their horn, but I guess it's publicity!
Eric
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garymcginnis
Exactly... Even pmCO also has stuff for EWR and has had it for years but I don't think its used very often. Seems like jetBlue was sorta grasping at straws to make up for a tough PR week overall.

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garymcginnis
Or..... what is the point of this with everyone else still doing it normally? I'm a supporter of Next Gen, however what is really the point right now? They won't be shooting these during line operations, especially into JFK where it would make more work for the controllers.

Need a few more companies to start doing this type of stuff before RNP can really work.
jhakunti
jhakunti 4
the point is that someone has to start the process. there needs to be a first so that there can be a second third fourth and so on.
garymcginnis
There has been a first long before jetBlue. There has also been a second, third, and fourth. Yet only the first carrier actively uses these types of procedures and really only in Alaska b/c there is nothing else.

Don't get me wrong, I think its cool they did this but its kinda not that news worthy. Also WN pilots about their RNP program ;)
garymcginnis
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