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A difficult back country approach revisited, 2013-U of I's Taylor ranch

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This year's Islander early morning flight into University of Idaho's Taylor ranch. Flying with McCall (Idaho) Aviation. Canyon walls next to the wing tips, sun reflecting off of Big creek, and a wet grass runway. Who needs coffee for this? I sure didn't. (www.youtube.com) 기타...

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sflso
Oh yeah. Wadda do about getting a wind check? Call ahead? Cross or down wind landings must be an extra bonus.
whip5209
Easy answer. The wind almost always blows down the canyon. It is usually calm in the morning, with a stiff tailwind for landings in the afternoon. Best to fly to Taylor in the mornings. The ranch emails weather information to McCall Aviation or Arnold Aviation in the mornings when flights are scheduled.
tduggan2010
The River Visual to Runway 19 at KDCA is a lot of fun, but this looks to be a real kick in the pants.
sflso
Climb out after a missed approach must be fun. I guess you just power up and go for the blue stuff. Brown stuff - bad!
n7224e
Oh, I bet you meant dirt. I was thinking of other brown stuff.
preacher1
me too.lol
preacher1
Actually, as tight as it is, where are you going to go if you miss?
preacher1
Well, from the video, that is what I would do. I just wondered if I was missing something. LOL
dbartel
WOW! After I watched this video I got up out of the chair to go get a “cold one” and the seat cushion came right along with me my butt was so puckered!
preacher1
I would have to echo the Pucker, with a capital P.
bentwing60
Echo, Echo, and pretty cool. This fellow is not getting paid the kings ransom to fly whatever that was in and out of there. If at all. Gotta love flyin and the flyers!
mickndot53
You indeed better know what your about going in there!
preacher1
Looks like you better know WHERE you are going, too.
joelwiley
Still a lot of smoke from the fires to the West.
Wonder what the approach looked like a couple of weeks ago'
jamesds
Phil. You are a fucking idiot. My dad flies for a back country service and has Breen been flying the back country for decades. I have several hundred hours of back time and would certainly not fly into the back without getting current first.

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whip5209
I've never asked a pilot about whether a missed approach was possible at this strip. I think it would be OK empty, but dicey fully loaded. The stream makes a sharp "S" bend 1/5 mile from the end of the airstrip and the canyon narrows considerably. In any case, a couple of sharp banks through the "slot" would probably be in order.

I wouldn't want to be on that flight.

On google earth, search "taylor ranch landing area".
whip5209
Following up. No sane pilot would dare take a plane in here without excellent visibility. And the pilots are backwoods pros. So...a go around would probably result from an animal unexpectedly walking out onto the runway. Meaning any go around would most likely be attempted from very short final after you've banked that last turn. Yowser!

I believe there is special training required to land here. And permission is required in advance from the University of Idaho and the caretakers.

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preacher1
Phil: I don't really like to fuss and you are entitled to your opinion but you are the only one on this thread that has raised the climbout issue.
THRUSTT
THRUSTT 1
You're fussin ole man, you're fussin...
preacher1
I have earned my right to fuss, young'un

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THRUSTT
THRUSTT 2
2nd best Phil, I'm the best!!!
preacher1
Now just ya'll don't go bragging too dang much.LOL
preacher1
And besides worrying about climbing out, I wouldn't care about going in there in first place
THRUSTT
THRUSTT 1
I wouldn't mind doing it, but like Phil said, preparation...
THRUSTT
THRUSTT 1
Preach on Preacherman!!!

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THRUSTT
THRUSTT 2
Lear
THRUSTT
THRUSTT 2
I'm always thinking about that too, I try to drill it into my son's head when he flies. Tell him to observe the open spots in the day so he'll know where to go in the dark if that engine sputters. It's a pain in the ass with the what if's, but it has kept me ok for 27 years of flying...
bennettgaryw
You must include yourself in that huh Phil?

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