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Airbus eyes 'A380 Plus' superjumbo: same plane, more seats

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Airbus may swap the prestige of the A380's grand staircase for the commercial lure of fitting more passengers onto the double-decker jet, in an evolution of the superjumbo called the A380 Plus. It's the same A380 plus more bums on seats, you see. According to Reuters, the wide staircase connecting the upper and lower decks at the front of the A380 would be slimmed down to less majestic proportions, with some tweaks to the spiral staircase at the rear of the plane. (www.ausbt.com.au) 기타...

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whip5209
Airbus is beating the dead horse to death.
FedExCargoPilot
For now it is not needed, but in 10-20 years that may change. And for now it is a much more practical concept than the blended wing body.
whip5209
Disagree. When deregulation occurred, airlines dropped the helter skelter route maps and went to hub and spoke. International as well. That worked well as a passenger took a small a/c to a hub, big aircraft from hub to hub, then another small aircraft.

With the advent of the 777, that structure took a hit. With the A350 and 787, the hub and spoke was even more severely weakened. Who wants to take two/three flights using an A380 when you can take one/two with an A350 or 787?

We're trending back to the helter skelter on international. This dooms the 747 and the A380.
FedExCargoPilot
I agree, but how about very high density routes such as London- SFO/LAX/JFK ? Currently they run 10 flights a day, sometimes 2-3 flights with the same airline, and with air traffic expected to increase substantially in Asia and Europe markets to North America, the air traffic and airports systems in place may not be able to sustain that frequency. I am not sure, but maybe this is what Airbus is thinking about.
whip5209
You make excellent points and I'm surely NOT a marketing exec at a major airline. However, people don't always want to travel at the same time of day. So multiple flights are a good option. There are not a lot of truly huge markets, and those markets are again divided with passenger loyalty to a given airline. Outside of Saudi Arabia with their superb location for an international hub system, the A380 seems to be a niche aircraft, imo.
FedExCargoPilot
True, flexibility is what is key I think, the A380 market is definitely a niche market, I imagine the market will be stable for it, maybe Airbus can continue upgrading the current ones out there to improve their efficiency, operating cost, etc, again just guessing here, not in in the marketing area for Boeing or Airline companies either ;)
744pnf
744pnf 1
Still limited to 853 passengers unless another 90 second evacuation is done.
bizprop
bizprop 1
A plus for the airlines, but a minus for the passengers.
royhunte92
More arses to the square meter.
wopri
As long as it's just moving the staircases around and making them smaller, that's fine, but then there's that little hint of maybe seating 11 across in economy. That would be a reason to avoid this aircraft for me.
scott8733
I picked up on this as well, Wolfgang. My translation is since the backlog is drying up- let's try and lay the bait for new orders/ customers, by dangling the tried and true means of getting attention......more seats = better revenue.

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