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FAA Investigates Boeing for Noncompliance with Safety Standards

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The FAA has officially launched an investigation into the in-service incident involving the Alaska Airlines Boeing 737-9 N704AL aircraft. (airwaysmag.com) More...

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mattwestuk
Matt West 17
Per the misery map, Alaskan had to cancel 158 flights today, or 22% of their schedule!

If they'd have held onto those A321neo's they could probably have reduced that number significantly.

While a single-type fleet makes financial sense, in situations where a fleet is grounded it can become very expensive. American found that out a few years back when they had to ground their entire MD80 fleet for inspections. It was very expensive for them.
clipper759
joe johnson 17
Incompetence is usually a choice and there is such a thing as too cheap. Hope somebody at Boeing figures that out before it's too late.
aurodoc
aurodoc 1
Exactly Cutting corners and being too cheap.
I think Herb Kelleher said the following: "You can make a frozen pizza so cheap that nobody wants to buy it". Boeing should heed his warning.
leaf4evr
Paul Ipolito 1
Amen, brother. They are running out of luck and time.
wx1996
wx1996 11
I wonder how long it is before Southwest announces a purchase of the A220 or A319neo. As I am sure this will delay their Max 7s for another year.
cratermoon
Steven Newton 14
Alaska Airlines just last year completed their transition to an all-Boeing fleet. They got rid of their Airbus planes and retired the Dash-8s. The latter, to me, were the iconic aircraft for Alaska. Publicly they said it was because they wanted to reduce costs by eliminating the need for triplicate maintenance. They kept their Embraer 175s, though technically they are operated by Horizon Air and Skywest. I guess at least they don't have any turboprops now.

The MAX is a quarter of their fleet. Alaska will be in a world of hurt if any of the NG models gets grounded, too.
godutch
godutch 7
I have not seen anywhere where this is anything but a quality control issue. If that is truly the case, then I don't see any additional delays. If it's a design issue, then yes they are in a world of hurt.
wx1996
wx1996 3
My take is the FAA is going to kill them with new paperwork. Additional inspections will slow their production line. Congress gave the FAA authority to hire to inspect and ensure Boeing aircraft are safe. This is the next round of FAA hiring.
godutch
godutch 3
"Killing a company with paperwork" doesn't fix the problem, that would be nothing but retribution. The FAA's job is consumer safety...put in place fixes that make us safe, killing them with paperwork will probably lead to us being less safe. The CEO and CFO need to go.
wx1996
wx1996 1
The FAA denied several 737-7 certification documents because the font was wrong.
Propwash122
Peter Fuller 6
Whether or not this safety investigation further delays the 737-7 certification, it most certainly will torpedo Boeing’s goals for increasing the MAX production rate. Either way this will delay deliveries of aircraft to Southwest and other MAX customers.
leaf4evr
Paul Ipolito 1
Good on them! All of their problems relate to shoddy production based on rushing their product to market.
mattwestuk
Matt West 5
I'm curious to know what it will do to the -10 certification as it shares a lot more in common with the -9 than the -7.
wx1996
wx1996 16
I agree. It is sad that Boeing had all this time to get its act together. However, it is clear that finance, accountants and MBAs are still in charge.

They had a chance to let engineering fix the processes and problems. Return to more of the old glory days of Boeing. It is sad where this once great company is headed, while demonstrating Execs are unwilling to fix what is broken.
mattwestuk
Matt West 13
If you haven't already, I would recommend reading "Flying Blind" by Peter Robison. It does an excellent job detailing the transition from "old" Boeing to "New", especially when it comes to the C-Suite decisions.
godutch
godutch 8
The 'captain of the ship' doesn't seem to be righting the ship. Fire the CEO and the CFO for cause, and start over.
eenvande12
Jan Apostel 7
This is happening when FAA is giving one company the permission to certifie their own product as one could read in the rapport after the investigation of the crash of the 737 Max from Ethiopian a few years ago.
sheldonlang
Sheldon Lang 2
FAA investigating is like a killer investigating the crime. There seems to be some unknown corporate culture at Boeing to to ask for forgiveness afterwards, instead of improving workmanship, inspection, etc. This has been going on much too long, and in earlier cases cost too many lives.
Anton1
Anton1 3
Glad I sold my Boeing shares last year!
a1brainiac
a1brainiac 2
These things are bound to happen when Corporate greed meets safety
leaf4evr
Paul Ipolito -1
Same question as always- At the end of the day, does anyone, with any power to change things, within the entire Aviation system, truly care about the traveling public more that they care about covering their asses and passing the buck? Please don't bother with long-winded answers, because I know the answer to my question. Better to spend your time reading all the mealy-mouthed replies carefully- worded to deflect any responsibility from all stakeholders. Your next step should then be to purchase flight insurance before any trip on any airline. This comment also breaks my heart as someone very near and dear to me is being placed in jeopardy a few times a week due to Boeing's staggering incompetence.
flygerold
Gerold Schoettle -1
Missing Quality Management during years. Yes I knew: you are the Best 🤣 continue sleeping please

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