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This is a pretty ingenious way to start a piston aircraft engine. (www.youtube.com) 기타...

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fairchildbrad
That procedure is actually in the lycoming geared engine maintenance manual. It tells how to wrap it and how many turns it needs.
siriusloon
One guy refers to the manual and posts useful information and everyone else falls all over each other to post their "expert" opinions and dire predictions. Just another typical day in "Squawks".
AABABY
AABABY 3
Just another lighthearted day at the office, I see.
sparkie624
Guilty as charged.
dbaker
I can't imagine a single way this could go wrong!
preacher1
Boy, I can.lol
joelwiley
Don't you mean you can't tell where to start?
sparkie624
I can visualize someone wrapping it in the wrong direction.... :))
ChrisMD123
ChrisMD123 -1
http://glennmcanally.com/sarcastic/

I think that Daniel knows how it could go wrong.
joelwiley
I think both of ours were tongue in cheek. 8-)
dgjones
Meant to add. Fairly common in wwII, when supply lines were long. Rope went around prop dome. . . .
Moviela
I use the same technology to start my weed trimmer. Its been improved a bit. There is a handle on the end of the rope so one does not need a pickup truck to pull it.
preacher1
See Bradley's post below about this procedure being in the manual
sparkie624
WOW... Would have never had believed that.
403331
SI!
The Navy fighters I flew early in WW II (the big one) started with a shotgun shell. Great idea when you don't have anything else to get the job done.
sparkie624
LOL, Those were a long time ago. Don't forget about the old Cyntriffical starters that you had to wind up a fly wheel with a Hand Crank before engaging...
62m20c
I've started Navy N3N with this procedure without a truck just about 6 men on the rope worked great. The owner was a marine fighter pilot in the pacific he told me that the would use a winch mounted on the hangar the same way.
onceastudentpilot
well I guess that is a bit safer than running the chance of falling forward into the prop while doing it by hand....I've only been involved in one of those situations...I flew a 172 during much of my unfinished flight training but on the weekends I had access to other planes just for the experience of flying other stuff (aerostar, katana,cub,mooney 152, 182, cessna 320 etc.)We were going to fly a taylorcraft one time and it it needed to be hand cranked...My instructor told me to hold the brakes but I swear I was more nervous than he was.
preacher1
I can remember as a kid, sitting in the right seat of a 150 and being told to not touch anything, while he hand propped it. I don't know if he had them locked or not but it didn't go anywhere.lol
onceastudentpilot
bout wrecked my nerves...being in a tail-dragger for the first time and with some funky looking rudder pedals to boot.....speaking of tail-draggers and the 150 series; I had the opportunity to ride in a super- 152 with a tail-dragger conversion....That thing climbed out about 1100 ft per min. if my memory serves me right.
HunterTS4
Yes.... You should fly one with the 150 hp engine and Horton STOL installed! Smack it on the butt and it goes!
sombeach
sombeach 3
we did this on a beech 18, 985 radial engine using a cargo strap, the engine fired right up but the prop got ahold of the strap and flung it around hitting the fuselage several times before we could shutdown the engine. It wasn't pretty
skybrt1012
Old codger out of KFNT used to do this..freight dog..lol
cmuncy
Really the only thing I see wrong is the potential to yank the aircraft around it's gear if pulled too fast.
mickndot53
Somehow I have a feeling that was not the first time he did that. It sure looks like a way to get into a batch of trouble if things don't go smoothly.
dg1941
dg1941 2
So obviously no takers to hand start the Lockheed Vega like Wiley Post's crew?
WALLACE24
The real deal is it can work. BUT,will you put the strap around your half million dollar airplane? Go for it if you feel lucky punk!
mayitrapo
No big deal, I did't dozens off times in my job like bush pilot in the jungles of Venezuela,off course must be careful to follow, let's say, a check list,if not many things will go wrong
KennyFlys
Ken Lane 2
The interesting question is... Using the same method, could he spin it fast enough to start a turboprop?

;-)
WALLACE24
Turbo props (jet engines) start by building a fire, not compression. Got to have a battery to provide fire, no magnetos there.
onceastudentpilot
Isn't the gear box also fluid filled instead of direct drive?...I had a pilot of a king air once tell me that you could actually hold on to the prop whenever the engine is started and is running however once it moves enough to build enough pressure you'd better make sure that you are out of the way.....Is that true?
sparkie624
No it is not fluid drive... It runs off of a Free Turbine... You can hold the prop with no problems. Let that prop even start to move and you had better be out of the way.
onceastudentpilot
I knew it was something like that
KennyFlys
Ken Lane 2
Ahhh... I forgot about that part of it.

That then gives thought to... enough juice to ignite but not spin a starter?

My brain is flying all over the place. After today's non-sense trying to get work done without interference, I'll only be happy if I can find a telemarketer to jack slap.
WALLACE24
Try Jack Daniels. Lol
AABABY
AABABY 2
Use a barbecue lighter? Exactly which opening is the pilot light in?
Or would you just light some matches and toss them in the main intake THEN try the tow rope thing?
Seriously, If that's a recommended procedure with the rope, It would probably save a few personal injuries by hand starting.
What ever happened to the removable hand crank system?
sparkie624
No Magnetos, but there is a lot of spark being created in that wind tunnel.
WALLACE24
I want to see it start with a strap and a pick up. You doing a Pratt or a Garrett?
sparkie624
Going to need a lot more rope.... And alot more speed.
WALLACE24
Probably one that will stretch from Memphis to Wayne's house. Lol
preacher1
That'd be a long rope. Might not be room enough to wind that.LOL
WALLACE24
Just a small piece of I 40. Lol
HunterTS4
Yall better gimme a call before all this goes down, I want to be watching!
sparkie624
LOL... Me too... Will have my video camera ready... May sell that one to a news service.
JonathonClague
Stop drinking beer for a few months and use the money saved to buy a new starter motor.
209flyboy
I was waiting for the truck to be yanked up off the tarmac. Would have been a great video for "Worlds Dumbest Drivers"
demonduck
Dont forget to post the video when it goes wrong as that would be more interesting to see.
captmrsir
Hey Y'all: I've propped off a Twin Beech many times. R-985's. Didn't need a truck either.
sparkie624
Can you count to 10 on your fingers :) LOL
captmrsir
Listen, Young Feller: My generation grew up without starters. I had a private license before I ever flew a tricycle gear a/c. I'm an ex-Airline Transport Pilot, Captain in a DC-3. (Ever heard of one of those, Son?)
joelwiley
Question: Are you as old as the DC3 you flew? (Disclaimer- the last one rolled off the line2 years before I arrived. Wish I were in as good condition as the ones still flying- I guess that's what proper maintenance and good bones do.
sparkie624
I am not that old... I will admit. I also know a few people who do not have all 10 because of it... It only takes one Ah SH?? to take care of a few of those highly valued pointers that we call fingers.
dg1941
dg1941 1
If it works, it ain't stupid, and this quite obviously works, so don't laugh. Anyways, I expect almost every pilot to have done something as dangerous or worse.
sparkie624
You are correct.. But wow, no what I expect... I remember being on the inside of a Bonanza helping him to PROP the plane late at night in the dark. No phone and no one else around... Was not the most Brilliant moment we ever had... LOL
joelwiley
One pickup, one rope, one plane: too few parts for a Rube Goldberg solution.
dgjones
Tricky business. Once did that with a C-47. Don't turn on the ign. Until the rope clears.......
Kimble44
I want to see the next video. Bent prop shaft, Bumper laying on the ground, Prop Bent all up on the pavement, Left main collapsed. "Hey guys watch this".
HunterTS4
Toby Sharp -1
Hopefully nobody gets killed
bill54494
O my goodness!
jfflyboy
jfflyboy 0
Is it actually in the manual or just advice from his cousin Manuel?
tisom2
Terry Isom -1
I would get another A&P; or another ground crew!!! It would be like fouling a cathead with 300hp! LOL
HunterTS4
Toby Sharp -2
Well according to Murphy's Law......they should be posting another video here shortly. Fools
preacher1
preacher1 -2
I could just picture something hanging up and the engine starting late, pulling the plane half around and coming right up on top of that truck.
f111jock
Art Turner -2
Like I always say "you can't fix stupid"
WALLACE24
WALLACE24 -4
Ingenious? Not word I would use. Lol
sparkie624
sparkie624 -7
That is just stupid.... Accident waiting to happen. I am sure there is no FAA or Manufactures Procedure of this.

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