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FAA Nationwide Ground Stop (Weds 1/11/23)

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he FAA is working to restore its Notice to Air Missions System. We are performing final validation checks and reloading the system now. Operations across the National Airspace System are affected. We will provide frequent updates as we make progress. (twitter.com) 기타...

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Ichiro Sugioka 1년 전 16

IMHO, the fact that this outage happened over night suggests that it was the result of a software update gone wrong.

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John Taylor 1년 전 13

They were converting from Windows 95 to Windows XP.

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Bab Bezat 1년 전 1

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wayne holder 1년 전 1

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Scumhook 1년 전 8

lol yes this - it was Microsoft's monthly "Patch Tuesday"...

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F. M. 1년 전 1

Correct me if my understanding is not correct, but Microsoft ditched Patch Tuesdays for a more fluid (e.g., unpredictable) patch rollup system.

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s s 1년 전 6

Notice to Air "Missions" LOL

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Ben Seidman 1년 전 6

Question to professional pilots: On a typical day, how much new information shows up in NOTAMs? If a runway was closed on Wednesday, but not on Tuesday, couldn't that be handled verbally by ATC? Or, is Tuesday's data deleted and the operations process dependent upon new data on Wednesday? I know there is probably a broad range of information that could appear in a NOTAM, but even a two-hour ground stop is extremely disrupting. Was this justified or an overreaction by the FAA in the name of "Abundance of Caution"?

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Cody Mathis 1년 전 6

NOTAMs have time periods of validity based on the length of time the reported condition will exist and/or be a factor for the safety of flight at a given airport. They are issued with that operational time period "printed" inside the information string, and so they can be published up to 72 hours prior to going active. Hundreds, if not thousands of NOTAMs are issued daily. The problem here, though, is that apparently every last one of them got deleted, which meant that operators needed to go back in and reissue their NOTAMs, including the ones that were presently active. Even as the system was being recovered, it was completely overwhelmed by operators simultaneously trying to reissue their field's NOTAMs. To answer your question, yes, we were all forced to go "Local" with our NOTAMs, which meant that they simply existed as verbal announcements in the published ATIS information every hour on the hour. In summary, it wasn't an issue of overreaction so much as it was a frantic attempt at data recovery. Either way you slice it, it was an epic failure.

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rbt schaffer 1년 전 1

For what it's worth, ATC must know about it. Not like anybody else reads it.

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rbt schaffer 1년 전 5

I liked the YouTube thingy. Controller stated NOTAMs were down and pilot replied 'Nobody reads them anyway. Then both broke up laughing,

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Charlie Roberts 1년 전 5

Guess that turning it off and turning it back on helped??

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James Simms 1년 전 8

Or the scene from ‘Airport’ where the ATC character unplugged everything ‘Oops!’……..

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F. M. 1년 전 2

THe RadarRange just needed to be unplugged and plugged back in.

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James Simms 1년 전 2

Meant to say ‘Airplane’ not ‘Airport’.

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james barrett 1년 전 1

At least he finally remembered to unplug the iron!

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John Taylor 1년 전 2

When all else fails, re-boot.

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EMK69 1년 전 4

Laughing

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tcavin 1년 전 28

LOL...notice to AIR MISSIONS.....maybe spend more time upgrading systems and less time with the virtue signaling

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Mike Mohle 1년 전 1

Absolutely! I am sure they also use the correct pronouns.

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David Carter 1년 전 0

Notices to Air Missions? aka Notices to Airmen. Airmen?? men? MEN!! Sexist. Chg to Air Missions.

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Jim Allen 1년 전 0

God, I agree.

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David Carter 1년 전 5

Air Missions? Notice to Airmen? Hmmm.. . .men? AirMEN??? Oh, I see - men is sexist - chg to Missions. . . Air Missions.

Dear God, please help us!! (We don't have authority to strike down the idiots/wicked)

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Ron Slater 1년 전 6

"...and the government launched an investigation into the breakdown, which grounded some planes for hours." Here, I'll fix that sentence for you. "and the government launched an investigation into the breakdown, which grounded all planes for hours."

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ken young 1년 전 8

Meanwhile our woefully unqualified Secretary of Transportation was MIA.
Probably taking yet another "paternity day" or "mental health day".

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Stephanie Watts 1년 전 7

Amen - he has had 2 years to fix this antiquated system and where has he been ?? Nursing his baby and taking vacations at our expense.

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John Yarno 1년 전 6

Or playing buttag...

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Stephanie Watts 1년 전 4

Amen - another useless government "official" who does nothing - endangering our precious pilots and passengers.
Butt ( pun intended) he gets a big paycheck nonetheless ... and gets away with it ....

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Andy Moss 1년 전 8

Or giving another press conference about racist bridges.

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dbarnesmsn 1년 전 4

More likely flying around on his private GOVERNMENT jet!

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James Cross 1년 전 2

VFR part 91 flights weren't grounded, so no, not all flights.

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John Taylor 1년 전 6

When did they change it from Notice to Airmen to Notice to Air Missions? Is that part of the "new" language being imposed?

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Peter McGrath 1년 전 2

Yes, Mayor Pete felt that making that change made him appear to look "cooler" and not just incompetent@

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Claus Buchholz 1년 전 3

What about the FlightAware site being down half the day?

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Jaime Terrassa 1년 전 3

first was southwest now it's the faa they both has the same excuse computer software they claim that they don't have the money to up date there system and they still keep on milking the public.

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Joe Keifer 1년 전 6

NO(tice)T(o)A(ir)M(en) system.

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Andre Page 1년 전 5

Maybe... NOtice to Pilots Everywhere... "NOPE" ;-)

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Nathan Cox 1년 전 11

Exactly. Why does the FAA have to go woke with gender neutral BS?

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ChrisRisley 1년 전 15

Elections have consequences.

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Rob Jessup 1년 전 7

The FAA has been operating "Without a Pair", in a gender neutral fashion for a very long time...

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Norm Dutot 1년 전 2

30 yr old system needs yo be replaced!

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Fran Moreno-Randle 1년 전 2

So ... realistically, will the "glitch" be fixed? Honest question, I'm not being sarcastic.

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Eric Richter 1년 전 1

There were 52 re-fuelers and many fighters scrambles all over the U.S. when the "Glitch" happened. It seems like it may have been a hack that they don't want to admit.
Just sayin....

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John Taylor 1년 전 1

Since the NOTAM's don't generally affect military, they were able to keep to their respective flying schedules.

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Joe Keifer 1년 전 2

It was "skinware".

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John Smith 1년 전 2

https://apnews.com/article/flight-delays-us-faa-updates-5805d15f520de8eadf52abb7b170487f?utm_source=homepage&utm_medium=TopNews&utm_campaign=position_01

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Ichiro Sugioka 1년 전 3

Fact that this outage happened over night suggests that it was the result of a software update gone wrong.

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RECOR10 1년 전 4

George! George!!!! Mr. Orwell!!!! Are you AWAKE??????

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Nathan Cox 1년 전 2

Any bets as to who the bad actor is? China? Why did the Canadian NOTAM system also go down?

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Michael Osmers 1년 전 1

Um … it’s a different country?

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Tim Eichman 1년 전 4

Read closely: Nathan's question was "Why did the Canadian NOTAM system also go down?" "WHY DID" not "WHY DIDN'T". So, since they are different countries, why did they both have NOTAM system failures the same day?

NAV Canada's response was: “We are still investigating the root cause of the failure,...[a]t this time, we do not believe the cause is related to the FAA outage experienced earlier today."

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Stephanie Watts 1년 전 2

Good response ... not a coincidence.

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Francis King 1년 전 1

Lockheed Martin's text file was corrupted from age as were all the backup files.

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Kenneth Martin 1년 전 1

Flew Wednesday from Midway to Richmond. Definitely not a stoppage, perhaps a slight slowdown. I arrived 15 minutes after my scheduled arrival time.

Flight tracker looked good all day long. The sky was full of aircraft.

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Francis King 1년 전 1

Lockheed Martin's text file was corrupted from age as were all the backup files

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W S Webb 1년 전 0

FAA SHOULD PAY FOR ALL CUSTOMER EXPENSES? THEN BE REMOVED FROM FEDERAL GOVERNMENT SERVICE? THEY SHOULD PAY ALL AGE DECRIMINALIZATION LAWSUITS!!

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james barrett 1년 전 -6

Ever think that this was intentional because during that time window they, (as in Them v. Us), didn't want any eyes in the sky?

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lfilipov747 1년 전 1

Absolutely.

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Steve Aliamus 1년 전 -1

CNN reporting it too: https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/faa-ground-stop-causes/index.html

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frumpy 1년 전 12

Why search for a news headline article that hasn't been written at the time when you could've just went directly to FAA's site? If you (in general) question the validity of a Twitter post, then go direct to the source!

https://www.faa.gov/newsroom

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Tim Eichman 1년 전 4

https://flightaware.com/miserymap/

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Colin Seftel 1년 전 3

See https://uk.flightaware.com/live/cancelled/

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frumpy 1년 전 1

Why search for a news headline article that hasn't been written yet when you could've just went directly to FAA's site? If you (in general) question the validity of a Twitter post, then go direct to the source!

https://www.faa.gov/newsroom

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Chris B 1년 전 -4

Couldn't find anyone else reporting this when I commented, Don't trust twitter to be a 100% reliable source.

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Roger Anderson 1년 전 4

But it's from the official FAA Twitter page.

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Jim Allen 1년 전 3

Is this the same Twitter that made people pay a second time for the “official” star and if not, it was up for sale? Don’t trust a government tweet.. they’re not good at it

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Chris B 1년 전 -6

Couldn't find anyone else reporting this when I commented, Don't trust twitter to be a reliable source.

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