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New York activist Tamika Mallory says she was booted from an American Airlines flight in Miami after a pilot inserted himself into a dispute over her seat assignment. (www.msn.com) 기타...

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indy2001
indy2001 24
Why do I get the feeling that there is much more to this story than what she claims?
devsfan
ken young 4
There is. My guess is she booked late. KNEW she was in a middle seat and then tried to use her status as a race baiting activist PITA to get into another seat. When her request( demand) was denied, she probably wigged out, created a huge scene, threatened to do some kind of irrational protest then of course the out the race card.
SHE felt disrespected? HA. WHat about the disrespect she showed to all the other passengers and the crew?
AA should put this crazy crackpot on their no fly list
AWAAlum
AWAAlum 2
LOL - with that imagination you might do really really well writing TV daytime drama shows. Too funny.
devsfan
ken young -2
Oh yeah? Do you have a more plausible theory? Fire away. Anything other than snarky wise ass remarks will do.
AWAAlum
AWAAlum 3
Ken, my comment to you was given in a light-hearted joking manner. If you choose to see snarky, where snarky doesn't exist, have at it.
devsfan
ken young 0
Ok.no worries

joelwiley
joel wiley 1
I have a theory that you are a paid troll from Belarus. It fits the data. The preceding was a snark-free entry.
devsfan
ken young 1
I see you are offended. Good.
Now, would you care to produce your theory? Or continue your juvenile responses?
joelwiley
joel wiley 1
That you express gratification that you perceive one has taken offense at your post would lend credence to the 'troll theory'. Your hypothesis is based upon an opinion that she booked late. That is valid as a hypothesis and is subject to reality testing. Beyond that, your conjectures may say more about your worldview than hers.

As I see it, this person appears to have a sense that she is entitled to consideration beyond that of the pax-as-cattle hoipoli. Whether this is due to her education, experience, and renown, or simply because she intersects with this particular nexus of the space-time continuum, I am not competent to say.

I am willing to forego judgement until more complete information in the event is available.

If no more information comes out, there is not much more to say.

If this is a minor issue with little significant fallout, just remember that 'light casualties' are never light to the particular casualties.
If you are a juvenile response junkie, I respectfully suggest you sign up for the twitter feed @realDonaldTrump
G'day
devsfan
ken young -1
Ahh yes. When faced with a superior intellect for which one has no intelligent response, go to file marked " insult". You chose " troll". Typical. You use these labels in an attempt to quash debate. Nice try. Won't wash.
Look genius, I rendered a theory. Instead of doing same, you went low road.
joelwiley
joel wiley 1
I have a theory that you are a paid troll from Belarus. It fits the data. The preceding was a snark-free entry.
rmchambers
rmchambers 1
Because there is way more to it. Some cell phone video ought to surface that would explain what happened.
shleong
Sai Leong 14
And here is where I have a problem with 'reporting' by the 'media'... How about figuring out what caused all this? If I was a reporter or even a passenger - my first question would be 'what kind of ticket did you buy'? Stand-by? Air miles? Basic Economy (seat selection at check-in)? 'Main Cabin (select seat at booking)'? Did you pay for a premium seat? Everything the airline's system does is programmed... hence - passengers are assigned 'priorities' based on what class of ticket purchased, frequent flyer status, etc.

So - if it turns out she bought a Basic Economy ticket or a similar low priority ticket - she can't argue about being bounced to a undesirable seat. It's a three hour flight. Deal with it. Plan better - book well ahead of time. Coordinate bookings with travel companions. Pay for premium seating if you must sit together for three hours and the free seat choices are gone. You want cheap, you get cheap.

So don't fly on a low priority ticket like Basic Economy where seats are assigned at check-in and you're more likely to be bounced if a higher priority ticket/Main Cabin ticket or frequent flier checks in after you. Flights are often oversold, remember?

Normally, I am sympathetic to passenger complaints - but, the article states an argument was taking place. Enough for the pilot to take notice and interject if he felt the agent was being intimidated or if he starts to feel the passenger could possibly make his crew uncomfortable during the flight. So by all means - kick that person off as I don't want to be seated next to that person, either. As she is an 'activist' - it is not inconceivable that she could have pushed her influencing skills a bit too far for the pilot's comfort.

This is a passenger ignoring the implications of her ticketing choice and trying to bully her way out. If a person is willing to argue with a gate agent, how will she behave if there is something she does not like on the plane? Let's not make this to be a race issue, but a bad behavior issue.
stardog01
stardog01 3
Of all the comments here, this is probably the best set of assumptions about what probably happened.
rawhp1
There you go. Good call.
genojoy
Gene Joy 7
Hey, it's air travel. If she was just a regular nobody it wouldn't make the news. Happens daily. Flying is a challenge for a lot of folks. While not being a victim of abuse personally I see gate agents and crew with attitudes. Fortunately they're few and far between but more than one is a bad business model. But it's two-sided. I once stood in line behind a man who was dismayed that his flight was delayed because of weather and threw a hissy fit because he would be late to see his grandkids. I asked him if he'd rather his grandkids see him at his funeral. Didn't get it. Stupid is a growth industry....on both sides.
TRANS06
TRANS06 1
Stupidity has reached a all time HIGH.....
hloraine
Hugh Loraine 13
It seems to me that there is insufficient information to form an opinion of any of the four parties involved. It should, however, receive a full investigation.
spinoneone
Other term for the pilot include "Pilot-in-Command; Captain; Chief Officer; et al" According to the FAA, "the pilot-in-command shall be the final authority for the safe operation of the aircraft." See that final period?
PLANESOLUTIONS
PLANESOLUTIONS 5
Perhaps that message should be posted above the cockpit door and on the boarding pass as well.
rawhp1
Trouble makers are kind of lawless in a way.
hloraine
Here in Canada, any civil aviation inspector can prevent a flight departing if they believe a safety issue exists. Regardless of PIC opinion. I believe the RCMP can also. Particular attention should be paid to “final” referring to “safe operation”. Has nothing to do with aircraft design, type of cargo, airport security, passenger screening, etc. But only “safe operation”, meaning take-off, fly enroute, land, and do so within established rules and procedures. Abuses have occurred by many professionals and legal entities. Each allegation of abuse needs to be thoroughly investigated in a transparent manner. So far, most of the comments have merely pushed myth, stereotyping and uninformed thoughts. Give me proof and fact anytime....
linbb
linbb 3
An aircraft mechanic holing that rating can down any aircraft if that person sees a safety of flight issue and is required to by the FAA. At least when I got my ticket way back when in the middle sixtys.
myalias
myalias 1
In Canada, the PIC has to follow instructions of a peace officer if it is safe to do so. So any peace officer can prevent a flight.

But the PIC still has final say in the safe operation of the aircraft, and is in fact a peace officer under the criminal code while the aircraft is in flight.
rawhp1
That was my point exactly.
bschaller1953
bschaller1953 25
Some people are looking for a fight no matter where they go or what they're doing. I believe aircrew has every right to boot you and not give you a reason. That's the way it was when I was flying. Didn't happen very often - people seemed to be much more polite and courteous 40 years ago. Am I wrong?
hloraine
I absolutely agree that the PIC is responsible for the safe operation of an aircraft. But the PIC is subject to various regulators, including inspectors, etc. So no, a pilot is not the supreme commander and ultimate decision maker. I could understand if the pilot considered a passenger as a potential threat to safe operation. I could not understand if the pilot is merely attempting to pre-empt a possible complaint regarding his or the carriers perfirmance. And a pilot should be able to give a reason. After all, people may or may not have been mor polite 40 years ago, however.... 40 years ago people of colour were required to ride in the back of the bus too!! No good reason from a pilot just nvites an immediate lawsuit. I have only refused a passenger once, and I was quite ready to explain my decision to both the individual and the carrier. Had I been overruled, then my response would have been for them to get another pilot.
gburton63
gburton63 3
40 years ago in 1977 people of color could sit in any seat they wanted too. At least the buses I was a passenger on. You need to go back and take another history class.
linbb
linbb 1
Hell yes I sat next to an Air Force person of color on the day the President was shot and we were almost in the front. Never thought one way or another at that time about it either. Was educated about things once I moved to Seattle still never understood it.
devsfan
ken young -3
Another revisionist history left winger plays the race card
joelwiley
joel wiley 4
To whom do you refer? Burton, Young, Loraine, or someone else?
joelwiley
joel wiley 2
Was that 40 years IN decimal (1977) or hexadecimal (1964)
The arrest of Rosa Parks was Dec 1, 1955
http://www.wesleyan.edu/mlk/posters/rosaparks.html
devsfan
ken young -1
Heres the reason. Passenger was aggressive to the crew in her tone and actions as well as a disruption to operations.
DONE....Don't like it" Drive, take bus or ride train'
Buying passage on an commercial aircraft does not translate to " A right to be transported on said aircraft"
JoelRugeno
Joel Rugeno 2
Your comment applies to the aircrew as well, instead of defusing problems gracefully they now use their dubious authority to make the flying public take it and shut up. I only fly American air carriers, specially the legacy ones, if there are no alternatives.
mikeosmers
Well as an employee of one of those carriers I am offended you paint everyone with the same brush... iHow can you possibly make an assertion like this that covers some 10,000 flights a day? You have absolutely no idea what actually happened here and neither do I. Could be the lady's description leaves out some important facts that would result in expulsion, maybe not. So before you get on your high horse why not wait until the investigation is over and both sides have had an opportunity to address each other's stories.
Ravioliollie
Most sensible and balanced comment so far!
ZooJose
Tim Payne 2
Well said! This is one side of the story, and being that it was MSN, it will always be that way. Finally, based on the loads of the flights I've been on in the last 5 years, no American air carrier is missing Ol' Joel.
Ravioliollie
Contrarily, I fly only international carriers where one can sense more civility.
rolo007
You definitely haven't been to Argentina then
mikeosmers
Oh yes! LH and AF are certainly known for their hospitality and warmness! LOL.
isardriver
isardriver 0
right on
devsfan
ken young 0
It is my understanding that the PIC is the final authority as far as the operation of the aircraft and the people inside the aircraft.
And that is sacrosanct.
CMware
Curlee M Ware 13
I have no problem with the pilots action, as long as under the same circumstances, a white guy, also gets the boot. It hardly seems fair, if she behaved inside the aircraft, that she be removed by the pilot, for a ticket counter dust-up. I've seen many frustrated people go at it with the ticket agent in the terminal, without this ladies result.
rmchambers
rmchambers 9
If someone shows signs of being aggressive prior to the flight it's absolutely the correct option to remove them from it. What happens if a fight breaks out at altitude? If you've shown a propensity to be aggressive prior to take off and aren't removed and a fight breaks out at altitude and someone gets hurt (bystander) then a lawyer could make the case that the airline KNEW xx was aggressive and let them fly anyway thus putting the other pax at risk due to their negligence. This is why they take potential troublemakers off before they break ground.
Ravioliollie
John Kilcher -2
C'mon can't you do better than that? Apparently you din't read all of the story.
linbb
linbb 10
Way more to the story than she is letting on, her actions were such that the pilot could see trouble brewing leaving her on the plane. All he needed was her to start berating the flight crew after take off and have to return to base.
ToddBaldwin3
The news story sure sounds damning. That big brute of a pilot and the nasty gate agent were unspeakably rude to her <sarcasm people>. Unfortunately, we only have one side of the story. I'll reserve my real opinions until I've heard both sides, and hopefully, a comment from someone else that was on the flight.
linbb
linbb 5
Think that her presence says it all, looking for problems with a chip on her shoulder.
rawhp1
Reasonable, responsible people deal with minor inconvenience without making fuss. This person had attitude issues, I guarantee it.
48phil
Phil Langdon -1
TOTALLY AGREE
kenoraeagle
DAVID MCKIE 12
Congrats to the pilot. I absolutely detest these "activists" who think they are owed something by society.
I hope the airline supports this gentleman and doesn't cave.
rawhp1
The pilot has to follow the FAR. As long as he was doing so the Airline will not throw him under the bus.
tahoe967
Interesting! Not long after the 'naacp' told its members to avoid American Airlines! And there she was stirring up some s--t!
joelwiley
joel wiley 1
Check the timing. This incident was 10/15 or 16. NAACP warning issued around 10/25. This may have been one of the precipitating incidents and not a 'me too' incident.
tahoe967
Thanks! I was unsure about dates although my comment about stirring up s--t remains! I'd be willing to bet that stirring up s--t is her primary goal in life!
vchenevey
VL Chenevey 2
I am shocked and dismayed by the negative tone of most of these comments. I hope that you can leave your hate on the ground, and fly with kindness and compassion to your fellow humans. If you can't do that, please let us know your next flight so we can avoid flying with you.
AWAAlum
AWAAlum 0
I am shocked and dismayed that you are shocked and dismayed.
upchucked
Paul, with all due respect, and I do certainly respect the responsibilities and authorities of the Pilot and crew, it would seem as though there was more here than just his attempt to keep things calm and orderly. If, as reported, he called her from her seat, along with her traveling companion, and ejected her from the plane without cause, the American Airlines will end up the heavy in this chapter. Remember, no matter where you are or what you do, someone has a cellphone camera aimed at you and there are more people that will come forward as the days pass.
watkinssusan
cw grady..your point is well taken sir..having worked as a gate agent for many years,i have never seen a pilot or co pilot remove anyone from a flight,unless the security or safety of the passengers and crew was involved..if there is a seating issue,in almost all cases the flight attendant will try to resolve it,or contact the gate agent to resolve it..a captain of course might intervene if the passenger is totally disruptive by name calling,or starting a fight,but the totality of this story is not given,so we don't what the true interaction was between the agents,the flight crew and the passenger..
srobak
srobak 2
You have no idea how badly she lipped off to the pic our how much ranting she did on her way to get seat or how much she carried on when she got there. All contributing factors to her getting booted.
AWAAlum
AWAAlum 1
Then the question begs to be asked - how do YOU know?
rawhp1
For the captain to get involved there had to be something disruptive going on.
ZooJose
Tim Payne -2
"a captain of course might intervene if the passenger is totally disruptive by name calling,or starting a fight" - DING DING DING! We have, what I suspect, is the real story.
aegbers
This is so our Country right now. We have developed a phobia with authority. It will get worse before it gets better but aviation has to be excluded. Obviously, "situations" of misbehavior on various airlines are on the rise. It is a direct reflection of our Country's resistance to authority. No matter your color or gender, you have to behave, got it? Most don't like hearing that. "Behave" is a threat, disrespectful and racist. No, it just means here, you have to behave. Do whatever you want elsewhere but in this environment you must follow the rules. Period. I hope the airline holds fast.
LethalThreat
Exactly. People feel they are entitled, above the law, and immune to repercussions. Things need to change.
rawhp1
Perfect comment.
Lancaster38
Boy you hit the nail on the head; that is also why so many people get killed becuase they do not behave when a policeman says to do something............ the word is disrespect
ZooJose
Tim Payne -1
I think you are confusing 'phobia' with 'disrespect'. These troublemakers aren't afraid of authority, they outright disrespect it.
rawhp1
They openly rebel against it. Guess who the "father" of rebellion was millennia ago?
joelwiley
joel wiley 1
On which continent?
rawhp1
In the heavens.
joelwiley
joel wiley 1
Namaste
canuck44
canuck44 5
Rather than accused of racism,Islamophobia or the like I will just post the Wiki entry for this individual.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tamika_D._Mallory
srobak
srobak 4
I see a while bunch of non-pertinent information I this article.

She was booted for being a fucktard to the staff and continuing to bitch about it after she got on the plane. That's the long and short of it.

Non applicable factors that the media has once again sensationalized and tried to give weight to include:

She's a woman
She was at Sharpton's wedding
She's an activist
She's from New York
She's black
The pilot was a male
The pilot was white

Not one of those has dick to do with the story or issue.

Hate hate hate the media and attention whores trying to get their 15 minutes.
shleong
Sai Leong 2
Oh and they didn't mention that the gate agent she was arguing with was.... black. Or was that only worthy of mention if the agent was white? She claims to have platinum status. But if you book a cheap ticket (like Basic Economy) - status only gives you so much protection. Sorry lady - you book cheap - you get cheap.
watkinssusan
srobak..although it would have been great to have the entire story from all sides,any media outlet or newspaper or internet site,as a whole (excluding those who try to incite)report the information given to them, unless they actually have a reporter who happened to be there at the time...we don't have the whole story or the whole picture,and the cockpit crew as a rule on any airline does not insert themselves into a seating issue,unless the problem is totally disruptive or poses a security issue..although airline personnel are trained to be professional and courteous and handle customer issues with ease,they too are people with feelings and emotions and can be pushed to a limit,whether its a gate agent who is usually the first contact nowadays, or the flight attendant on board..had the gate agent been truly "offended",he or she would have either not given the lady a seat because of her behavior, or told the flight attendant there was an issue,who has the option, by the way, to say, they don't want that person onboard..hating the media,as you said you do, is kind of ridiculous,because without it,most people would know nothing of what is going on in the world around them,and people do tend to "cherry pick" items from what they see or read, as you did without having the whole story or context..
outward
M dad quoted a saying as I was growing up (one of many) that went (improper grammar intentional), "Don't start no trouble and there won't be no trouble."

She's an activist all right, actively starting trouble. People like her and Al Sharpton are the ones that keep racism alive and hatred festering so it can brought up when it's convenient or profitable.
tbpera
Tom Pera -1
amen brother...
Pileits
Pileits 3
So I guess her official trade would be named "Trouble Maker" like Al Sharpton's official trade in fact is, Trouble Maker and cronic complainer
CPAIR007
JASON AWID 2
Man ...does AA have an fugly Look now .....nuff said ...🤗
phowry
Phil Howry 2
Wow, is the air-traveling "adult" actually capable of this level of absurdity?

Sounds like an elementary school playground.
klunker
Chas DeVine 2
Pilot 1,loud-mouth loser o! Walk home!
LethalThreat
Tamika sounds like one of those morons who had a meltdown the night Trump won. She claims male aggression and discrimination LOL. Also tries playing the race card. Give me a break.
richsmit
I had a meltdown the night Trump won, and I am NOT an activist. Try something else.....
outward
I don't like Donald Trump but I didn't have a meltdown myself. I'm pretty stable.
tbpera
Tom Pera 6
good for you... felt the same way when Obama elected
LethalThreat
I’m sorry to hear that. It is upsetting that you reacted that way when things didn’t go the direction you wanted.
mikeenderle
So she was being a racist,sexist bitch... Tell me I'm wrong.
jgoodnough2
Oh come on. This pilot has way more issues than the woman did. She simply expected good customer service. He decided to intercede in a ticket agent conflict that was none of his business and already resolved, and then escalate it to the point of creating a conflict. The woman was already seated on the plane. She had a valid gripe. She changed her seat and they changed her back at the gate. She may be aggressive and in your face but that simply makes her like 25% of the people who fly today. And if poor behavior was grounds to remove a passenger many flights would be empty. This kind of behavior from flight personnel has to stop. Customers are not the enemy, but they are people that are paying your salary. Treat them like this and your future prospects are quite poor. I'm really surprised by many of the attitudes I'm seeing on this topic. What would you do if an airline changed your seat at the gate and separated you from the person you were flying with? Stand by passively and suck it up? Of course not. This woman was perfectly within her rights to object. But the pilot stepped way over the line. His actions are barely justifiable. If it looks like racism it probably is racism.
Clindnberk
Well put, John. So many here are ready to jump on the passenger for being upset at her treatment. It's pretty clear that we don't have the full story so the quick rush to judgement is totally inappropriate. The Captain may have had a good reason to remove her, but it is certainly not obvious from the facts so far presented.
(~ 30 yr former AA Capt. here....)
rawhp1
Don't forget the old adage John. If wee assume too much we make an Ass out of U and ME.
ZooJose
Tim Payne -3
Please don't reproduce...
dbrosssr
She claims she was disrespected but with what there is to gather from this story what respect did she give to the gate agent who had nothing to do with her seat assignment? When I grew up in the 40's and 50's I was taught you earned respect, you didn't demand it. Demanded respect is of no value at all and will get you nothing but disrespect in the long haul. If you have a problem ASK for help and 9 times out of 10 you will get the help you need, DEMAND help and most of the time you will get none.
Friendlyskieswife
Good for him and the rest of the passengers and crew.
PTAYERS2836
PETE AYERS 1
Be a jerk, when it doesn’t go your way, claim racism! Glad she was thrown off. SHE needs to learn respect for others.
crashdummy
link is to MSN news so the whole article is her side of the story. How about a follow up with the pilots side ?
iflyrjs
Another lawsuit that AA will pay out and Ms Mallory will run to the bank laughing....
rawhp1
I wouldn't be so sure she will prevail if her "behavior" forced the captain to have her removed from "his" aircraft.
joelwiley
joel wiley 2
Not likely to go to court. Settlement for a price the Airline finds acceptable to make the problem go away. Just think of all the billable hours for the attorneys.
marston620
The pilot runs the plane! Not the passengers. What the pilot says, goes. If you don't like it you can take the train, or bus, or walk.
marylouanderson512
the last thing any of these airlines want/need is more publicity like this. What is missing from this recitation?
rawhp1
Bottom line: The pilot -in-command is the final authority over anything pertaining to the flight he is assigned to. All naysayers shut up. He did what he thought was correct. End of discussion.
AWAAlum
AWAAlum 1
A tad cheeky, Bryan, setting yourself up as an authority to tell people if they stop commenting.
rawhp1
Sorry if I seemed abrupt. My point was just that the PIC exercised his responsibility using his judgement in the situation and made a decision and I don't see the point in debating what cannot be changed.
herdy34
Jon Herd 1
The pilot has full authority on that plane. Pure ans simple.
AWAAlum
AWAAlum 0
You've missed my point entirely.
herdy34
Jon Herd 1
You missed his point.
AWAAlum
AWAAlum 0
Nay. It's likely I was referencing two sentences you've perhaps disregarded.
AWAAlum
AWAAlum 1
If the entire event has been reported here, which clearly it hasn't, I would wonder why she was allowed to board in the first place. It seems obvious something further had to be going on in the cabin for the pilot to then reinsert himself into the fray. Whatever comes to light, I can't shake the feeling this woman is one of the many people these days who just isn't happy unless she's unhappy and has a cause to fuss about.
joelwiley
joel wiley 1
If the whole story was presented, there might not be much of a story.
mepi
Me Pitzak 0
You characterized her correctly. I am afraid we may never know the full story from all sides. I get so infuriated by these community organizers - professional protesters.
Hoopster
Hoopster 3
Whilst I agree that some people are never happy, just remember that the freedoms we enjoy are largely a result of people standing up for themselves and others when others fear to speak up at all.
We tend to take our freedom for granted.
rawhp1
They are part of an agenda of civil disruption.
grafael
Because someone is a professional protester, it doesn't entitle them to special privileges. They should spend more effort passengering than protesting.
bbabis
Bill Babis 0
Trouble is this gal's middle name and profession. She got everything she wanted and deserved.
BigRick
Rick Schaefer 1
I give it a week before this "activist" files a lawsuit saying they did it because of race.
ToddBaldwin3
I was hoping that someone, somewhere, witnessed this event, and maybe even recorded it, but the lack of news coverage of this so-called incident makes me believe her side of the story even less than when I first read it.
buzzva
Larry Wedel 0
Sounds like typical boohoo look at me manufactured gripes from an unimportant person. Of course she complains to the press and makes frivolous statements, that way she makes herself out to be the "victim". Bet she was the instigator......
k1mgy
Mark Richards -1
"The pilot told her the airline worker had “nothing to do” with her seat getting changed and that she was the one who behaved disrespectfully."

She fusses about a seat while her brothers and sisters lack a pot to pee in!

I doubt any crew member would take such action without a preponderance of cause. This will be spun into racism, sexism, and all else, when her ejection from the aircraft was the result of her actions.
Ravioliollie
Perhaps Racism IS the real reason. All of you naysayers sticking by the pilot have heard what you wanted to hear... especially because she is a person of color and is outspoken for just causes. For shame, and I hope more light is shed so that at least I can make an unbiased opinion.
sparkie624
sparkie624 -3
Why is this even an article... She was wrong and it was not news worthy. The captain had the FINAL authority on who boards his a/c.
hloraine
Hugh Loraine -2
Right... Next time a terrorist, bomber, illegal immigrant boards an airplane, I will blame the pilot. Next time a citizen from Trump’s denied countries list is refused entry, I will blame the pilot. I suppose you were a witness to any interaction between this person and the agent and the pilot? If he does have final authority, then he better be prepared to open his wallet whenever anyone is wrongfully removed from an aircraft, or whenever anyone gets bumped from a flight. I believe the pilot is really only “responsible for the safe operation”. Not the ultimate authority for all matters related aviation safety. He carries blame....
Highflyer1950
I think you may have missed the point! We are not privy to any conversation(s) the Captain might have had with any of the other employees referencing this passenger. What is interesting is that after the pax was seated, there was sufficient cause for the Captain to then remove her from the flight......that is his prerogative and my guess is that he already had a discussion with dispatch and acted in concert with systems operation control. With all the incidents happening lately with irate passengers this action was probably following a company script. Maybe.
mikeosmers
Hugh, the FAR is
§ 91.3 Responsibility and authority of the pilot in command.
(a) The pilot in command of an aircraft is directly responsible for, and is the final authority as to, the operation of that aircraft.
It has been adjudicated that all aspects of the flight are the responsibility of the PIC, including the conduct of the passengers. In fact as an example, did you know it is technically illegal for the PIC to allow an intoxicated person to board his/her aircraft? Do we know for example if this person was intoxicated? The short answer to your query is that the PIC has very broad authority in regard to all aspects of their flight.
rawhp1
Right. Someone is trying to make a mountain out of a mole hill.
AWAAlum
AWAAlum 0
Kind of like someone who would post 17 comments on the subject (so far) ?
herdy34
Jon Herd -2
She's just a self important ratbsg getting her 5 minutes of fame.

You've only read her sidevof the story.

You don't get boosted for acting like mother Theresa.
jbermo
jbermo 0
Difficult to imagine why the flight crew would not have good judgment on such matters (removing a passenger). They deal with people every day and are usually proven to be enablers if treated with respect
rawhp1
The captain would have bent over backwards to accommodate a passenger with a problem if that passenger displayed a proper civilized adult attitude. Been there done that as captain.
TWA55
TWA55 0
Give the flight crew a raise for doing the right thing. The headline above to the story tells me enough and I would not need the details of the incident to guess what she was acting like. She is what she is, another cancer within our society. The crew did what any doctor would do, remove the tumor.
jagerardi
jagerardi 0
It's MSN- we KNOW this isn't the whole story.

..Joe
srobak
srobak 1
It's daily news
jaymcdonaldllc
Jay McDonald -2
Story written by MSN. Players don't matter - Just the story line. Witness interviews did not support story line so they were ommitted.
What else do you expect from Liberal media...............
dlentz78
Dl TL 0
Especially from such a great company in general which promotes and/or allows late night racism.
cordery
Alan Cordery -3
Regardless about the noise about the nonevent in the checkin process, surely not unusual in today’s world, The fact that the pilot decided to punish this person, a passenger, a customer, once on the plane, just because he could, shows you how people, even airline pilots with the responsibilty and authority their position gives them, act like tin pot dictators, just because they can. Common sense, another absent quality today, would have gone a long way to resolving this nonissue. Now we are all talking about it, and as typical again today, inventing facts to suit our arguments.
Navy65
Navy65 -7
Anyone besides me notice that whenever a Negro does not get his/her way, racism is ALWAYS the cause.
dlentz78
Dl TL 0
I have a strong feeling this lady (relatively speaking) pulled out the ENTIRE deck of race cards for her ridiculous actions. As a black male I am embarrassed by fools like this. If the pilot had to remove her then the local police should have arrested her and charged her with disturbing the peace.
AWAAlum
AWAAlum 0
Not being an authority regarding the removal of a pax, common sense tells me that local authorities need not be called in unless the pax escalates to physical or verbal threats. They have enough genuine issues to handle.
rawhp1
I for one am growing weary of all this "reverse" discrimination trying to pass itself of as discrimination.
waynej007
wayne johnson -3
Activist and Al Sharpton says it all!
ldoucet
There is no doubt that this activist’s Story is different than how she actually behaved, The fact remains that a pilot can remove you from his flight for any reason that he deems necessary
gerardogodoy
gerardo godoy -2
Protest, protest, protest, protest that's what the USA is all about now. A sinking country with no return. Keep protesting, becoming very fast a third world country suits you.
srobak
srobak -3
I see a while bunch of non-pertinent information I this article.

She was booted for being a dipshidiot to the female staff and continuing to whine about it after she got on the plane and even in her seat. That's the long and short of it.

Non applicable factors that the media has once again sensationalized and tried to give weight to include:

She's a woman
She was at Sharpton's wedding
She's an activist
She's from New York
She's black
The pilot was a male
The pilot was white

Not one of those has jack to do with the story or issue.

Hate hate hate the media and attention whorez trying to get their 15 minutes.

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